Posts by Rather Be the Hammer

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FEB 2016 broadcast

by Grey Goose in

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it might be the craziest one yet..

I just watched the beginning of this video. To me it looks like they are talking their way out of the abuse-case: whatever severe, gross and awful sin ... (Like hiding abuse, lying in court) It can be forgiven. Jehovah will not discard people who do that. 1-0 for the FDS.

But talking against Jehovah's spirit (read: being against his witnesses? Or having a lawsuit against them?) will never be forgiven. 2-0 for FDS 🙄

I think it's weird, until now the 'sin against the spirit' was something unknown, right? It was something quite blurry and vague. (Or at least it was until 2004 when I quit trying to understand the JW stuff.) How convenient that they now know the specifics of this sin against the spirit.

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I am SO tempted ! to join the FSM Church !

by Phizzy in

the netherlands has recognized the church of the flying spagetti monster as an official religion !!.

i am so tempted to join it openly, and see what the reaction of the jw's is, surely they should df me for joining another religion?.

but how silly would that make them look !

Rather Be the Hammer

I read the news too! I will never join another religion/cult but i do like FSM. Because they show how stupid religion is. My daughter wanted to join them at once, too. 😄

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Seriously....We have to start attacking this cult!!! Enough is enough!!

by DATA-DOG in

i propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .

seriously.... any suggestions?

this crap cannot be left unchallenged.

Rather Be the Hammer

Oh that's funny. I said to my still-in husband that maybe the next step would be a WT playstation game. This comes close. :-)

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Rather Be the Hammer

The question 'where else would we go' was not about a religion. That's a mistake a lot of JW make. It's what the Borg wants you to believe, that this question is about 'true' or 'false' religion.

But: The disciples asked where would the go if they were not with JESUS.

So if you feel there must be someone you want to stay with, (because 'it says so in the Bible') it's Jesus. not a religion. Or a cult.

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Would I lie to you?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

given recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?

in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.

when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.

Rather Be the Hammer

Anders, I suspected them both to be true 😫 But thought you were playing by the rules. Lol.

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Would I lie to you?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

given recent posts on the forum and discussion, maybe we could play this game: would i lie to you?

in the uk we have this tv programme where minor celebrities tell weird or embarrassing stories about themselves and the rest of the participants have to guess if it is a true story or made up.

when the others have voted then the person reveals if the story is true or false.

Rather Be the Hammer

@Anders Andersen: I think the first one is true. I would be really shocked if it would be the second. (And if that's the case, did you feel guilty back then? 😳 Or could you really relax and see that stuff and have no fear of Jehovah knowing what you did?)

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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.

by joe134cd in

just read speculation about this on another thread.

who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.

or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.

Rather Be the Hammer

Best book ever, Crisis of conscience. Also available in Dutch.

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

Rather Be the Hammer

I will respect choices of people as long as they do not cause danger/harm for other people.

If you see someone collapse, not breathing, no heartbeat, and you want to rescue him, and find out he carries a 'no resuscitate' (DNR) would you respect that?

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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?

by Darkknight757 in

so i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.

for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.

i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.

Rather Be the Hammer

I didn't tell.

I told him about the things I found out, 11 years ago. In order that would be: 607 BS err..BC. Watchtower NGO UN. Abuse within the Borg. I wondered about the FDS too, because it was an illustration. And so on....

Because I couldn't believe JW stuff anymore I would do fieldservice with the Bible only, no JW litterature. But after a while I couldn't talk to people about paradise (where the hell does the bible promise us a paradise in future?) and I didn't see the logic in talking to strangers about my belief, while the elders had told me not to share my thoughts with my brothers and sisters. I stopped giving answers at the meetings. I refused shepherd calls in our house.

(At that thime I told my brother about this stuff too. He (JW) told me to be wise and don't overreact and don't do a stupid thing (like writing a letter) or something. We already had two disfellowshipped siblings and if I would get out of the Borg it would complicate my relationship with other JW familymembers. So I did. I just faded. Only go to meetings (I also stopped going to one of the midweek meetings to make a point, ha, but then THEY stopped with that meeting too. 😂)

Anyway, so much for men being logic, and women about feelings, Anders Andersen. 😜What I found out is this: the people who REALLY study the bible and the WT dogmas, learn the truth very quickly. The zealous, the persons that want to prove a point to others and then find out they can't. The 'relaxed' JW may never get to that point.

So I never told anyone I don't believe anymore. If someone must know, I tell them that I have severe doubts about things, and that in the past ten years nothing has happened to make those doubts go away...and a lot to make those doubts worse.

In fact, I don't know if I believe in something, I'm just not interested anymore in all the blabla about the future. Life is NOW. Maybe there is a God, maybe not. Since I don't believe in hell, what's there to fear? And we'll die anyway, one way or another.

My husband has learned to live with this. We do best when we don't talk about religion. The last few years I sometimes can ask a question like: have you noticed the change in....'thoughts about evolution' 'thoughts about FDS and anointed' 'increase in memorial partakers' ? but he never notices these changes. 😳 And it seems that the other JW don't notice it either.

The best I can say is: hang on. Try to make clear that you want to fight for your marriage. It may take a couple of (hard) years. But if you want to stay together, she has no JW reason to leave; and if she is willing to leave without reason she would be as 'bad' (In JW-world) as you are and then there is no reason to leave anyway...

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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing

by Crazyguy in

on their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.

the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.

singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.

Rather Be the Hammer

Wow. I can't believe this is at (or after) a convention. It looks like these are JW though, and they sing one of the newest songs, not even in the songbook.

I noticed that everyone in the audience wears a white shirt. Must be something Belgian? In my (close to Belgium) country brothers can wear shirts in any color they like, although 'only white' has been the rule for a long time...in the fifties or so.

My first idea is that this must have been at a wedding, but wow, a choir at your wedding to sing kingdom songs? And the 'we are family sign' in front of the stage seems not so wedding-like. So I think the video really must be what it claims to be...